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Stop Lawing the Gospel (w/ David Zahl)

June 24, 2026

Summary

Has the Christian life become an endless list of things to do? Jon Moffitt sits down with David Zahl to explore why believers so often drift from the freedom of the gospel back into performance and self-improvement. Together they unpack the difference between law and gospel, showing how Christ's finished work provides the rest and assurance Christians desperately need. A refreshing conversation about grace, faith, and the sufficiency of Christ.

Topics

  • Drifting from gospel freedom back into performance and self-improvement
  • The difference between law and gospel with David Zahl
  • Christ’s finished work as rest and assurance
  • Grace, faith, and the sufficiency of Christ

Transcript

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00:00:13

Welcome back to another episode of Theocast.

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I'm your host, Jon Moffitt.

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I'm pastor of Grace Reform Church in Spring Hill, Tennessee.

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And if this is your first time here, what I love to do with anyone that's able to join me is pull the clutter off the gospel and really let Christ shine, not only just in the gospels, but through

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all of scripture and have important conversations that help us in a day where there's a lot of hopelessness and it feels as if we're constantly drowning in just our own sin and the sins of others.

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So, hopefully today is refreshing for you, and this would be an encouragement to you.

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If you want to learn more about what we do, we have all kinds of books and videos and a community available.

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Just go to theocast.org.

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Today is, man, a repeat, three Pete, four Pete.

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I don't even know how many times David's been on here, but years and years ago, one of our first guests, David, came in and talked about one of my favorite books, Seculosity, one of my church's favorite books.

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We did that book as our Bible study and they loved it.

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But David Zahl, who's been a part of Mockingbird, for, did you say, is it?

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What are you at?

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Like, I think I shoot this last time, but is it 15 years?

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20 years?

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How many years are you at now?

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We're 19 years.

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19 years.

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There you go.