The guys discuss a theology of the cross versus a theology of glory. And, we consider the point of our sanctification.

Jon and Justin talk about the patience, mercy, and gentleness of Christ--and how much we all need to be reminded of that. The guys also discuss self-righteousness and confusion of law and gospel in the pulpit.

We get a little bit more punchy as we talk about the dangers of pietism as it relates to the gathered saints in the local church and the damage that it can cause. We hope this conversation is beneficial to you as it was to us. We look forward to you listening.

Jon and Justin talk about the most difficult kind of people to live with, as well the struggle we have to accept people's repentance.