Jon and Justin discuss accountability and how it is often approached in the church.

Jon and Justin talk about preaching that leads to more despair and discouragement, rather than helping us in it.

Jon and Justin talk about implications for preaching in light of our struggle against sin. We also consider church discipline as a tool given to us by God for the restoration of sinners.

The guys continue the conversation about ambition. We discuss how ambition is harmful to churches, pastors, and church planters.

Jon and Justin talk about mercy, grace, confession, and forgiveness in the church amongst the saints. The guys also consider that the holier and more mature Christians become, the more gentle, patient, and merciful they become.

Jon and Justin talk about getting up every day and continuing on in the fight. How do we do that? Then, the guys talk about sanctification--ways it has often been presented and what it is really about. It is a fun conversation, including a reference to an old hymn, “Stand Up for Jesus”!

Jon and Justin talk about their presumptions as preachers. What do they understand about themselves and about their people? How does this affect preaching? If we are sinner-saints, what do we need to hear when we gather on Sundays?