Jon and Justin continue the discussion around Mark Jones' article. We also take listener questions about the Marrow Controversy, Roman Catholicism, and when/how you would know someone is a false convert.

In this episode, Jon and Justin talk about a verse of Scripture that has produced much angst and confusion: Hebrews 12:14. In that verse, we read that there is a holiness without which no one will see the Lord. How should we understand this passage?